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spending, not only raising revenue, but growth in the economy. and you know? this debt ceiling issue is just crazy. i stand -- >> was it crazy seven years ago when your democratic colleague voted against raising it? was it crazy then? >> well, except it wasn't real and this is real. the last final -- >> real is in the eye of the beholder. >> no, no. >> i guess it's -- >> it was more -- you know that those past votes were more symbolic, but when we really had a crisis over the debt ceiling in 2011, there were real consequences. real lasting consequences, and we didn't even -- we did raise the debt ceiling in the end, but we saw the deficit grow, neil, when there was this threat to -- and so as i said, the coke brothers, the u.s. chamber of commerce, against the debt crisis. >> i always appreciate your coming on. you give as well as you take and i appreciate that. congresswoman jan. >> a warning about the healthcare law. unite health care says its costs are running up. all rise. the judge says your premiums are about to do the exact same thing. so, i guess we shouldn't be surprised. pr
of trying to solve the issues with the debt ceiling that are somewhat disturbing to the markets, the eventual solutions could be every bit as disturbing. >> and even bruce mccain with the uncertainties crowneding the economy and what's going on in washington, we've had big inflows into the market and to mutual funds and other things, and that's significant for you, isn't it? >> absolutely. we've seen a willingness to take more risk. i think the downside is that we're also seeing a bit of complacency come into the market, and with uncertainties, especially the fiscal cliff the sequel ahead of us, we think there's opportunities for some disruption of that positive feel-good feeling we're seeing in the market right now. >> all right. how do you want to allocate capital then, bruce? how are you investing in this environment? >> we think it's important not to be taking too little risk, so certainly making sure that you have adequate exposure, especially to things like the emerging markets where the fundamentals of growth are a lot better than they are in the united states is clearly
yourself. >> the debt ceiling debate continues. >> we are not a dead beat nation. >> we all know the issue is spending. >> what are the risks of huge spending cuts? >> operations, maintenance, and ading will be gutted. real ground aircraft, return chips to port, and sharply curtail training across the force. >> a bill before the wyoming state legislature would make a federal agent who tried to enforce a ban on firearms guilty of a felony. there are similar measures under consideration in texas and the governor of mississippi says he wants to make it iegal in the state to enforce any new federal gun laws. how many times have we had this debate? this time after the murders of the children in newtown, conn., the president tells us this is different. the president has signed 23 executive orders aimed at reducing gun violence and is urging congress to reinstate a ban on so-called assault weapons, limit the size on magazines, and mandate here are some background checks for all gun sales. he is also asking the public to put heat on members of congress. remembers of congress if they support univer
. they tried to force the issue using the debt ceiling in 2011, using the fiscal cliff in january. i am as gung-ho as any of them to force obama into cutting spending. but it failed, and the reason is, you cannot govern from one house of the congress. that is the truth. i wrote a column this morning saying essentially, you have to recognize, you cannot use these things come up as in the end, you will have to cave. you will be humiliated and our ratings will be low, as you indicated, and you will not get the spending cuts anyway. certainly, i do not think the republican house will want to go over the cliff. >> the president of the united states has gone from dealing with the big problem that faces the whole country to try to destroy the republican party. this is exactly what the public does not want. we are turning into small, petty brinksmanship. let's see if we can crush the republican party. he has given up on the larger and more noble goal of doing something. >> i am not going to say who was right or wrong in the negotiations but the reason that this grand bargain has twice fallen through is
to issues like the debt ceiling? you said republicans were more flood throwing the country back into recession, talking about gun control, saying, ask, you should call your congressman and ask why they are against us, is it because of the nra, they care more about them than they did about first graders are. what do you make of the tone of the president at this point? >> the president, candy you seems so fix said. the president seems so fix said on demonizing republicans that he is blinded to the opportunities as well as the obligations that he has to deal with big problems in this country on debt and entitlements. >> the same problems on the republican side as well? >> the president if he hits the reset bunt, like did he with russia, time to hit the reset but the within republicans and look to the inclusions of the major problems and divided government a perfect time do it, candy. >> senator john barrasso, thanks for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. >>> coming up, the next four years with former senator russ feingold, former speaker of the house newt gingrich, "
of time. adam: let me interrupt you because we have had this debt ceiling essentially part of our discussion for almost 100 years, going back to 1917 with the issue of liberty bonds. now today we talk about the debt ceiling and we talk about its impact, this debate for the people who are watching, and, getting to this craziness we see the market reacting in a way you can't anticipate. what would happen to our 401(k) if congress he said they have to get together, i was thinking two words, "good luck." whether they can't do something? >> if they don't raise the debt ceiling and let's say we get debt downgrades, the market has a fit basically and drops as they did in 2011, all our investments will get hit. the stock market will go down as it did in a big way in the summer of 2011. on the other hand, if they extend the limits, the debt ceiling limit and do something more, maybe not a grand compromise, something more in terms of deficit reduction, my guess is the market will kind of shrug it off. they won't get upset. the issue is in the end what happens in the run-up read the politica
to addressing the issues in the country. it is good they have had a good first step agreeing on the debt ceiling, but it seems to be only a first step. connell: the matter what you call it or how you slice it there seems to be issues after the election. now they're on this retreat whether it is the reports coming up with some sort of short-term debt ceiling, the bigger picture, what should the priorities be in your view? >> first, i hope there was shock therapy fo so anybody says the d rape, they shot the whole things we can get away from that tendency somehow and members of our congress. the polling on republican party is focused on washington, which is very interesting since we a party that focuses on state. as a negative view of the washington republicans, we need to start focusing on the success that republicans have in the states. we will talk about that, but chris christie is getting all the attention, but john avalon wrote about how the number of minority governments at the republican party far exceeds the democrats. not just because of ethnicity, but these people like bobby jindal, suzan
sides when it comes to president and congress, this debt ceiling fight. >> that's right. although now we're seeing some of the temperatures lower there because every was expecting for this to be during the last time out, republicans saying let's deal with this for the next three mos, deal with the longer one later. the white house encouraged -- they're encouraged by what they're hearing but clearly it's not going to be easy. but certainly i think not as contentious as we were thinking in the short term. >> we'll see how that relationship develops if at all or e vovls throughout the next term. dan, thanks very much. john has some of the other headlines this hour. >>> including the manti te'o story. twists and turns if that mysterious case of the notre dame linebacker and his fictitious girlfriend. notre dame linebacker says he was the victim of a cruel hoax. he spoke off kacamera with espn jeremy schaap and said as recently as last wednesday he believed his girlfriend was real person even know he never met her. schaap says he seemed believable and sincere throughout the interview. >> i ca
is up against republicans, he trying to work on the debt ceiling. you have the whole issue of whether or not the debt ceiling is going to be raised, whether or not that is going to be held hostage to actually paying the bills the government has to pay. you also talk about immigration reform. where does this fit in in terms of the president's priorities, do you think? >> well, from where i sat today, obviously it seems to be a very high priority for the president of the united states. i'll let the white house and the administration answer how they're going to deal with congress. that's their task, not mine. but i'm confident that the president, the vice president and the entire administration is going to do everything they can to get the package they proposed today through congress. and, you know, when you heard the president say, i think it's essential, american citizens, the american people have to demand this. we have to act. when you have 1,000 people nearly killed in last 30 days at the hands of gun, when you have mass tragedies like happened in connecticut, aurora, colorado, oreg
showed lingering concern over remaining major fiscal issues like the debt ceiling is weighing on the mind of consumers. that is the latest from the fox business network, giving you the power to prosper ashley: research in motion looking to win big with the release of its new blackberry 10. the smart phone being unveiled later this month. and there is news out today that the tech company's stock is getting an upgrade. shibani joshi has details on the rim buzz. shibani. >> the buzz keeps buzzing on this one, you can't really escape it. jeffries today upgrading the stock saying they believe the e-mail and bbm messenger service will be licensed to the iphone as well as to android phones that is licensing revenues for research in motion which it needs. also getting some apps out there and early traction with enterprise customers signing onto this. that is news lifting it higher today, all around up 98%, almost doubled in the last three months. ashley: so are the gains real? this of course has been a favorite of. >> this is interesting. we're starting to uncover this a little bit. short interes
. >> katherine reporting for us tonight. the drama in waington on a different issue. the nation's debt. we hit the ceiling and the government is using accounting tricks to pay the bills and top republican leaderships say they may vote in favor of a three month extension without requirements to cut government spending that. is according to eric cantor who said the vote could happen next week. it would mark a hudge about face for congressional republicans who said our government is addicted to spending . we turn to our new polling and show you most americans believe we have a spending problem. a whopping 83 percent said that government spending is out of control. compared to 62 percent in 2009 . majority of you scene percent favor raising the debt ceiling but the increase must be tied to major spending cuts. only 23 percent think it should be raised with no strings attached. that is what the republicans are considering. stay withs numbers just a moment now. we want to show you president obama will begin the second term with much less support than he had four years ago. the president's approval r
as mental health so that can be a focus as well. still the debt ceiling is another issue to talk about, and trying to find a solution to the deficit problem, lings. so economics still playing a big factor and jobs. that's one thing a lot of people talked about last night is the emphasis for needing more jobs for americans, as the president starts his second term. mike. >> all right. tori campbell, live in washington, d.c. this morning. we appreciate your time. >>> as you saw it live, president obama was just sworn in a few minutes ago. vice president joe biden already was sworn in for his second term earlier this morning. >> so help me god. >> so help me god. >> congratulations >> thank you. [ applause ] >> biden was surrounded by family and friends for his brief swearing in at the naval observatory. supreme court justice sonia sotomayor administered the oath of office. after biden's swearing in he and president obama attended a wreath-laying ceremony at the tomb of the unknowns at arlington national cemetery. it's the first time a visit to the cemetery has been included as part of the
other issues like the sequestered. republicans are floating a short-term debt ceiling increase with some modest cuts to deal with the automatic spending cuts that government funding levels and get back to an argument or discussion over the debt ceiling and spending levels once you reach the next few months. that is right now what they are discussing. they have not decided on that strategy. this is just the house republican strategy. it would then have to keep an over to the senate and agree with senate democrats and the white house. for republicans they say this is all about structural spending changes. >> i think it is very clear at this is not just the notion of paying back past dues for the united states but also making sure that the dead obama administration wants to continue to incur is restrained. >> reporter: republican leaders continue to meet with members discussing a number of different ways to deal with the debt ceiling, short-term mr. -- short term. also a longer-term extension of the ceiling that would involve larger cuts, structural changes to entitlements and tax reform, a
. thank you. jon: when republicans return to capitol hill next week they will folk on issues like the debt ceiling and upcoming budget battles. the president's sweeping effort to control guns including 23 executive actions could make it harder than ever to reach any kind of bipartisan agreement. senator rand paul says he will fight the president's executive orders. he's accusing the president of acting more like a king. >> our founding fathers were very concerned about having a separation of powers. they didn't want to let the president become a king. and i'm afraid that president obama may have this king complex sort of developing. i'm very concerned about this president garnering so much pow irand arrogance that he thinks he can 0 do whatever he wants. jon: senator ted cruz of texas seems to agree saying the president is high on power. >> this is the president who has drunk the kool-aid. he is feeling right now high on his own power and he is pushing on every front, on guns, i think it's really sad to see the president of the united states exploiting the murder of children, and using it
in the politics of that. he has fights around the debt ceiling coming up and to make this the issue, how do you think that will work? >> that's why i wonder how serious he is. i'm not questioning his motives. now he knows for the next two months all we're going to be talking about is the debt ceiling, sequestration, the continuing resolution, ending the fiscal cliff, all of these. >> you're not questioning his motives of what he's suggesting. he'd rather have a conversation about guns than the debt ceiling? >> i think the president is trying to get political support from his base, maybe he feels it strengthens him going into negotiations with the republicans or the fiscal issues. listen these guys won't even ban assault weapons, how can you trust them on taxes and spending. i see it as building up his political position which is not wrong but i don't think in his heart of hearts he thinks he's going to pass any significant legislation. >> congressman king in the studio after my asking all the time. >> i couldn't stay away from you, soledad. >> she's not really a tough interviewer is she? >> she
a new plan to eliminate the debt ceiling, claiming the gop is exploiting the issue for political gain. doug mckelway is live in washington with more on the democratic plan and the road ahead. hi, doug. >> reporter: hi, jenna. this democratic plan in a nutshell would basically do away with the statute that calls for the debt ceiling in the first place, allowing spending in effect to go up and up and up without the artificial cap that the debt ceiling is indeed. democrats are explaining this in a press conference right now as we speak, so we'll be learning a lot more about it as the day progresses. republicans obviously deeply opposed to this thing, fearful that democrats will indeed use it to allow spending to go up and up. here is senator john barrasso speaking on fox news this morning. >> we have a spending problem in this country. people all across the country know it. they know it in wyoming. families have to balance their budget every year. many states do. we do in wyoming. it is time for the senate and the house and the president to get serious about limiting our spending and spe
to face the tax issue, as well. it's not just raising the debt ceiling that he's going to have to deal with. but he's going to have to negotiate with the republicans and perhaps try to change the tax code. all of these things are things he's already signaled he wants to do. what's fascinating is that this is a president who wanted to be a domestic president in the last -- in his first term and he was saddled with an economic situation and two wars to deal with. now is a shot to be that domestic president and make some really big change. but he's going to have to work with republicans in the house in order to get big things accomplished. >> and clearly what he wants to do is have some influence on voters. and though the official announcement is expected today, we do know that obama for america is going to become this nonprofit supporting his agenda. what kind of influence could this have? >> well, i think if you're an obama supporter, you hope it has more influence than it did or what they tried to do during his first term. they talked a lot about this leveraging his campaign which ever
says he's willing to debate spending cuts, but that the debt ceiling should not be a link to a budget battle. >> verizon says it has made significant progress in dealing with issues stemming from last summer's deadly derecho. this comes after the virginia state corporation commission said 911 outages were caused by the company's failure to perform necessary maintenance. the panel also said verizon failed to monitor and respond to the outages which disrupted 911 service to nearly 2 million people in northern virginia. what a mess that was. nice to sea there getting on top of it. >> for the next big snowstorm. >> we did not need to worry about that so much yesterday. >> we were not calling to rub it in. >> i would rather take about the sunny skies you are predicting now. >> it was not a major storm. everything stays to our south and east. you have to be prepared this time of year for anything. here's a look at the satellite and radar picture. look at that swirl on the bottom of the animation. that shows the tract of the low. this was in its early stages. look at how it pulled off to the
the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can they get this president to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexing to try to attach that to a debt-limit deal. do they move beyond the debt limit, try to get to the continuing resolutions and those kinds of things? they recognize that this is the only area of leverage that they have, but they want to be careful about it. >> so chuck todd, how does the white house deal with that supposed leverage? >> well, first i think the republicans are hoping that they have a manti te'o
and debt ceiling, poverty is expanding. 50 million in poverty. food insecure, unemployed, and the disparity keeps growing, plus an impact of violence. so those issues must be confronted in this second go-round. >> how does the president go about doing that? i made the point in the last, before the last break that the president, at least at that point, had both houses of congress under his belt with a democrat majority. he doesn't have that anymore. can he put forward legislation, ideology, issues to help reduce that polarization? >> you know what, lyndon johnson opened up the war on immigration in appalachia. most poor people are white, female and young, and black and brown hunger hurts. 50 million, these people are malnourished, homeless or wandering. they're unbankable, therefore they're driven into expensive loan arrangements. they are poor. they cannot send their children to school. they cannot dream. 50 million more very close to them, this impact of growing poverty and racial polarization and violence is a hell of a combination, and i would think that now we must in substance take a h
with republicans on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation back in 2011. for that reason and others, his confirmation hearing could be bumpy. if confirmed, he will be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the country's long term fiscal problems. >> this is a president that is forced to grapple with the budget woes, with the economy that cannot get over the hump. it will consume most of his time, i believe, in the second term. >> what he cannot do going into the term is go from economic crisis to economic crisis. that is not leadership. he has to figure out how to address this in ay way. our health care reform cannot waste, must not wait and will not wait another year. >> passing health care legislation early on was high on the president's to-do list. he picked kansas governor to head up health and human services, to get health care legislation done he largely passed control over to congress to put the bill together and to figure out how to get it through. it became a messy process about 2,000-plus-page bill. it did pass. it was signe
two issues i want to get to right now. immigration and debt. maria, i'm going to start with you on this one. the upcoming debt, certainly, the debt ceiling set the tone, really, for what to expect, we think, for the next four years. the battle over that, already. do you see that as the case? >> well, it's certainly going to be a big challenge, both for the president and for republicans. you're already hearing from republicans that came out of their retreat yesterday, essentially walking back, that they were going to use this debt ceiling pretty much to -- you know, as the democrats like to say, to take the economy hostage, to demand spending cuts. they have backed off of that, looking at some plan to raise the debt ceiling at least for the next three months, to give some time for those talks to happen. and there is a big challenge in coming together, because the president still really feels like absolutely, the debt needs to be focus on, it's a huge issue, big priority, but it needs to be done in a balanced way so that all the spending cuts are not focused on programs for those
for future, because they're going to have a hard time with the debt ceiling. that 27 could go to 12. >> there is usually somewhere lower to go. thank you very much, john avalon. >>> all right, well "outfront" next, we are learning new details about the american hostages in algeria. the family of one hostage spoke with cnn's david mattingly today. he's been chasing that down and he is going to be "outfront" in a moment. and more trouble for boeing. the electric problem of the dreamliner leading more countries to ground planes from america's biggest company. about health care...se i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still going to give me a heart attack. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three stra
agree with him on the sense that you don't play with the debt ceiling as the point to which to make cuts. there are other issues coming up like the continuing resolution and sequester cuts where they would like to make their last stand there for cutting getting spending cuts and allow on temporary extension without not much attached to it. >> heather: let's talk about the economy. the president starts his new term. less than 1% rate it as excellent. 9% say it's good shape. that is up a touch from his first inauguration but 91% of voters say economic conditions negatively today. why are we here again? >> you have to wonder. i point you back to november the conditions haven't changed all that much in two months. i would imagine that those exact numbers were the same on election day, and the american people not only re-elected the president but gave us the same senate in the house as we had before. so as much as they are saying economy isn't going well, when they had an opportunity to change things they voted for more of the same. >> heather: you mentioned congress, finally two polls dealin
saw the debt ceiling. so if that were to get into any kind of a logjam, not getting results, there can be some amount of sentiment that can impact us. and impact the customers and, therefore, to us. similarly in india, you look, the budget is going to come up in february. worry seeing further moderation in interest rates. but we still do not know, because quarter four tends to be a very good quarter. we have concern because we have very good revenue comes from india gee of fee. but some of those moves that will happen by the government and therefore the decision for investment and therefore there is a little bit of uncertainty. that is a big reason why we have given a guidance of .5% to 3% in large range. >> suresh -- >> based on the deal plan that we have, we feel that -- what? >> so just to be clear, you're basically saying just so people know what we're talking about, the guide kwans for the current quarter was between 1.2% and 3.5%. you came in at 2.4% revenue growth. your guidance for the next period is 0.5% to 3%. that was half a percent lower than the market was expecting. but y
macgs? >> this is an important issue. we do have things to worry about like unemployment and debt ceiling, but this is big. basically what was happening it was on the menu. it said champagne and champagne technically comes from a part of france. >> gregg: a region of france. >> right and the lobbyists went crazy over this. u.s. law says as long as you show the origin of the grapes it's already but they put california on the right side and on the left side -- >> only the french would get upset about that. >> gregg: the problem is there is too many lobbyists in washington. we put on green room on this. it's astonishing. there are 12,051 lobbyists that are actively lobbying. >> $3.3 billion in one year. >> gregg: i didn't do that. if you do the math, 22 lobbyists for every single member of congress? >> yes. >> gregg: there 22 to one in lobbyists. >> there are a lot of lobbyists. >> gregg: there is a lot of influence peddling going on in washington, d.c. >> to me this champagne issue popped my cork. >> gregg: they ought to switch to martinis? >> i think they would all be happier, cham
trying to figure out what they are going to do about the debt ceiling. it looks like they may be softening on that issue. here in washington as the debate over sensible gun control measures. on that front, how about it? the latest cbs poll "new york times" poll shows that the american people are solidly in support of the common sense gun violence measures introduced this week by president obama and vice president biden. 92% of americans supporting a universal background check; 6063 supporting a ban on high-capacity magazines. 53% supporting renewal of the ban on assault weapons. over all 54% of americans say they want action on gun control. so what the hell is congress waiting for. on top of that, we have the big lie arizona, lance armstrong and and. manti te'o. we'll cover it next here on current tv. right have, about the "heavy hand of government" ... i want to have that conversation. let's talk about it. really? you're going to lay people off because now the government is going to help you fund your healthcare. really? i want to have those conversa
. the white house held a firm line on saying we're not going to negotiate at all on this debt ceiling, and it worked. do you think this is a lesson that may carry for four years, when they see themselves posturing this way rather than what they have done on other issues? do you think this might be contagious within the white house? >> remember bill clinton and what the definition of is, is. with barack obama it's sort of what the definition of negotiation is. they will deal with the debt ceiling, and that's when you will have very active negotiations over the budget. what the house has effectively done is put this on a similar path, a similar timetable as these other negotiations and the president may be able to say look, the debt ceiling is going to have to be raised regardless but house members can say well that's fine, but this is what we're demanding in terms of cuts. so maybe they are not linked except for the calendar, but at least in the minds of the republicans they certainly are linked. >> michael: yeah, i couldn't agree with that more. and that's a
on the debt ceiling increase? are you going to be-- does that help? >> well, it's helpful that they have now dropped their demand, that the only way they're going to pay the country's billes, they themselves racked up, would be to extract some concessions. we've got to never again have this threat to the global economy and our economy because congress may not pay its bills. now, three months is no way to run an economy or railroad or anything else so that's not ideal. so i think it's a significant moment that the republican party now has moved off their position that the only way they're going to pay their bills is if they ge the correct kind of concessions. now, where does that leave us? i think we would be better served to go back to regular order in congress so we're notica reaping crisis to crisis; congress ought to work together and come up with a long-term fiscal plan >> but you see this as a good sign? >> i think they're no longer saying the only way we pay our bills is to have huge cuts in things like medicare. that's positive. listen you see our economy-- good housing numbers this p
economy hostage. if the house can pass a clean debt ceiling increase and meeting the existing obligations we will be happy to consider it. here we are as i said three days before inauguration and it looks like another fight that the republicans are not prepared to it seems to follow through on despite the threats. >> zachary and i were having a conversation in the green room and i said i don't understand the meaning of a second inauguration for the president. i get it now. the reason we need another inauguration is apparently one party doesn't understand we had an election in november and they lost. which means that you move on and you let the president be the president of the united states. these guys still want to fight the old battles of 2012. >> but they're giving this extension now. >> a three-month extension. the white house should tell them to go shove it. you can't run a government three months at a time. you have to have a long-term planning. bad for the markets. bad for the country. bad for the economy. let's make clear, definitive decisions. you lost. let's come together and co
on the hill after the debt ceiling negotiation. for that reason and other, his looming confirmation hearing could be bumpy. but if confirmed, lew will likely be dealing with the top issue in this second term, how to get the economy moving and addressing the count re's long-term fiscal problems. >> this is a president that is forced to grapple to the tenor of our times with the budget woes, with the economy that can't get over the hump. it's going to consume most of his time, i believe, in the second term. >> what he cannot do, going into this term is go from economic crisis to economic crisis. that's not leadership. what he will have to do is figure out how we address this in a broader policy way. >> health care reform cannot wait, it must not wait and won't wait another year. >> he chose kansas governor kathleen sebelius to get health care legislation done, he largely passed control over to continuing to get -- to congress to get the bill together. it became a messy process, about a 2,000-plus-page bill. >> this notion that this has been not transparent and people don't know what's in the
. that of course is bumping against and going through the debt ceiling. you know, when the president had his press conference discussing this i always like a good food analogy. his analogy was of course by not raising the debt ceiling we're not paying for the food we've eaten. basically at this big dinner we're at. i like it. let me give it a little slant my style. that is, it's not really a restaurant but an all you can eat buffet. there is no bill coming. the senate and house haven't passed a budget together in years. we have a revolving credit, a tab at this all you can eat buffet and nobody wants to get up. it is not like there is a clock where boom. here is your bill. we'll start the next 24 hours like your charting machines. nobody is ever getting up. it's just a meal that never ends. so how do you in essence stop the eating, stop the debt that is created by running up the tab? well, it seems easy enough but of course it gets messy and the politics are different than the principles involved. the house republicans seem to have finally figured that out. let's look at what some of the key playe
ahead of debt ceiling conversations, days after fiscal quick negotiations -- days after fiscal cliff negotiations. was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by far, and we've had the least political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at
over the debt ceiling, you hit it, calamitous. and you have other words from damaging to manageable, republicans saying we can do this for awhile and it will be okay. i want to look at specific issues here. democrats say any missed government payment is a default. republicans say, no, only when you don't pay the interest on the debt. how about on the issue of can the government prioritize payments so that the incoming cash equals the outgoing cash? really the republicans -- i'm sorry, democrats saying no authority to do this and really no ability to program our computer system to do that. republicans saying you know what? the government can pay just the interest, social security and defense spending meaning military salaries. markets, of course, democrats say they're going to demand higher wage because of this. republicans will suggesting they'll overlook this gridlock. finally on the economy, a lot of folks saying it would cause a depression. republicans say, there are temporary effects here. now, okay, so let's do this. could you, if you were treasury secretary, so you make spendi
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